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The Jesus Factor

I’d like to thank Matt for pointing me towards the eye opening PBS documentary The Jesus Factor. The creators take a historical look at religion in the life and politics of George W. Bush, and since the entire show is available online, I’d encourage everyone to watch it.

One thing I hadn’t realized until now is that Bush hasn’t spent his entire life as an evangelical Christian. He was “born again” at the age of 40 in an attempt to turn his life around and escape the grips of alcoholism. This fact makes me worry even more about his constant religious rhetoric.

I’ve been around religion my entire life. My grandparents were born Amish and as a child we attended a Mennonite church so conservative that the women covered their heads when inside the sanctuary. Religion was presented to me as fact, and I accepted it at face value until my mid-teens. My observation of religion in this direct context has given me the perspective I need to develop the following viewpoint: people who convert to Christianity late in life are more extremist and less tolerant.

Usually those who grow up religious, whether they accept it their whole lives or not, have a tolerance and pragmatism towards religion that’s lacking in late converters. For them it’s seen as a balanced part of life, and not as a tool for drastic change. If somebody’s faith is predicated on the use of their beliefs to “fix” their life then it can be tainted by their intertwining of spirituality and personal improvement. This direct relationship can polarize the issue, causing them to believe that abstract religious ideals were alone responsible for success in overcoming their problems. To them, religion wasn’t part of the solution, it was the solution.

George W. Bush is unable to separate these notions of religious belief and the betterment of our society. Too often he speaks as a religious leader, invoking God in ways that are incompatible with his position as a defender of the constitution. He appoints judges based on their ability to enforce “God’s laws”. His first executive order was the establishment of faith based initiatives. He continues to talk in themes of good and evil; black and white terms defined presumably by his own religious beliefs.

It is incredibly dangerous to believe that God has a “side” and that it’s yours. To believe that your political system or way of life is the one explicitly chosen by a divine power is strikingly reckless, and similar to the extremist groups that we’re at war with. I don’t believe that President Bush was out of character when he called our current conflict a crusade. It might have been a bad public relations statement, but not an ideologically inconsistent one.

I have every respect for an individual’s freedom to believe in a religion. It’s when those beliefs lose their context and begin to be seen as absolute and sole truths that I get worried. As can be seen in both his history and his campaign speeches, our president crosses that line.


 

Comments

I would have to say, in some of your words I agree, yet in others I do not. Religion is more than a belief system, it is a way of life. It is a basis of what is right and wrong in a christians life. It guides how you treat others, even other countries. Religion has a large context, it covers much of a persons life internal and external. You say ” It�s when those beliefs lose their context and begin to be seen as absolute and sole truths that I get worried.” Much of what religion teaches is very logical, and universal. The reason many people have problems is because of the structure, and also the mis-understanding of faith.

Posted by: Joel on May 5, 2004 9:03 AM

did i ever fully explain the lecture that i went to about bush and religion given by Dr. Anderson my professor? She talked about the beliefs and practices of his church, as well as his beliefs on his relationship between himself and god. In many ways he sees himself as a ruling through divine right, which is obviously scary for many reasons. I would like to see this documentary.

Posted by: meredith on May 5, 2004 9:40 AM

It seems to be that much of this commentary and or lectures are given by athiest speakers, and or, advocates for separation between church and state. I would like to hear it from the other side, from a christian speaker, who feels that bush is misplacing his religion into his justification for action.

Posted by: Joel on May 5, 2004 10:29 AM

I agree that it’s important to hear critiques from both the atheist and religious side. While I consider myself to be a religiously tolerant atheist I understand that my lack of belief will always inform my viewpoint. However, I would point out that atheism is not intrinsically tied to separation of church and state. One is a religious _choice_ offered to us by the law; the other is mandated by the constitution. Within the documentary on PBS there are religious leaders who speak highly of separation of church and state. They see it as a dangerous mix that hurts both institutions.

Posted by: Simon on May 5, 2004 12:03 PM

I also feel that they should be separate, but I do think that an individual senetor and or president can use his religion as a basis for his choices. I mean, You are what you believe in to be true, and if you reject that, then you are lying to yourself. Faith is hard for non religious people to understand, because logic and fact rules the world. I base much of my “worldview” on my religion. I also am shaped by it, in the way i treat others and how I deal with conflict, so in this, is it not right for bush to use this as one of the foundations for his descisions. But remember it is a democracy, and there are many other non-religious members that aid int he guidence of our country.

Posted by: Joel on May 5, 2004 12:20 PM

Like many others, I was born into my religion. And while for the first decade of my life I didn’t know it whatsoever. Only when my family moved halfway across the world to where we’re originally from did my parents re-discover religion. That’s when my tutelage began and for a while it was intrinsically tied into my view. For me, it’s always been part of and not the defining view. It changed years ago to today where I relate but do not identify with the religion I was born with - many questions unanswered and still going through my own understanding. There are many things I don’t agree with and that’s where the conflict lies. This is where I cannot fully believe in it. However, I have taken certain morals and systems from it and somehow still apply it to everyday life. Sort of odd, but for now it works.

Posted by: Naz on May 5, 2004 2:12 PM

My two cents: I agree that Bushs’s religious rhetoric is scary. Definitely. At least I’m glad he’s open about it. Some, like the Gores (who founded the PMRC) keep it more subtly hidden. As to the question of religion vs. atheism. I do think there’s often as much intolerance w/in members of the atheist camp as there is w/in members of the religious camp. Intolerance has nothing to do w/ religion; it’s (unfortunately) an all-too common human condition. As for separation of church & state: I agree w/ Joel, it’s not just an atheist conviction, many religious people (like myself) believe very strongly in it. It’s actually even a precept of Catholic doctrine going as far back as St. Augustine. Also, I do think that religious people can use their convictions in politics. After all, religious convictions are (in my opinion) no different than any other moral/ethical/philosophical beliefs. We wouldn’t argue that an environmentalist isn’t allowed to use his/her beliefs when proposing laws, would we? Or what about people opposed to animal abuse? In a philosophical sense, these types of moral convictions are no different than the moral convictions presented by religious people. Or we could all just become Randian objectivists …

Posted by: miguel on May 5, 2004 2:40 PM

Yes, politicians should be allowed to base their decisions on their own personal beliefs, religious or otherwise. In fact I doubt there would be an effective way to stop them from doing so. But there is a difference between letting religious ethics weigh in as part of your decision making process and using political power to further your religious beliefs. Also, I disagree that all ethical convictions are the same as religious ones. Too often region is presented in a “take it or leave it” manner that doesn’t allow for the sort of personal gray area that secular convictions can have. In particular, George Bush as a man, and evangelical Protestants as a religion show this kind of black and white attitude.

Posted by: Simon on May 5, 2004 2:51 PM

what specifically do you have problems with in terms of bush?

Posted by: Joel on May 5, 2004 3:21 PM

Bush speaks of his presidency as a divine appointment, he reduces complex issues to matters of good and evil, and he twists biblical phrases into political rhetoric. I’m worried that he bases his actions more on his perception of God’s will than the will of the American people. I think that his religious beliefs are so dominating that they limit his ability to have a flexible and holistic view of the world. Obviously this worries me most because his worldview doesn’t match mine. I understand that some people like his for these very reasons.

Posted by: Simon on May 5, 2004 4:55 PM

Forgot to mention - I agree with the idea that people who adopt religion (as an answer) later in life tend to be much more zealous. Like with anything found on one’s own, one takes to it quite easily. As for Bush - I feel as though he’s a puppet. Behind him though are people who seem to be of narrow vision, one way or the highway. Thus I also agree there, there’s not much lateral thinking. Which for a wrold leader is not a good thing at all.

Posted by: Naz on May 5, 2004 6:47 PM

hi, my name is mary and i just found your weblog and thought i’d join the debate. i was raised “in the church” (as they say). i’ve since become pretty frustrated with modern american christianity, but i still believe in jesus christ and i try to weed out what he actually said/did and what americans believe. i am freaked out that people believe george w. is a christian! he just says those things because it helps him get (re)elected. do you really think jesus would support any form of violence? american domination of the world? capital punishment? destroying the environment? big business? i don’t understand why christians buy into all of that shit just because he says “i’ve been praying about this”. its seems like a lot of christians are scared to question things like that. let’s not confuse jesus christ with confused humans who have completely messed up his compassionate message to love others.

Posted by: mary on May 6, 2004 1:19 PM

“Faith is hard for non religious people to understand, because logic and fact rules the world.” I am not a religious person, but you better believe that I think there is something more to treating people well than “logic and fact”. I grew up Catholic and now I call myself “between religions,” and I’m not sure about anything related to my spirituality, but that doesn’t mean that Logic and Fact are my gods. What about karma? I think I believe in that in a way, but I don’t think that makes me religious. I’m definitely interested in Buddhism, sure, but I’m not Buddhist. I’m wandering…the point is, it is as dangerous for me to say, “those silly Christians” as it is for someone to make it sound like people without religion are some sort of logical robots without emotion or morals. Because I hate to tell you this, but as a lot of genetic research has shown us, it doesn’t really make sense “logically” for us to treat each other well. And I think that shows that there is more at play here than cold, hard Facts.

Posted by: jim on May 6, 2004 7:09 PM

I watched this finally… It was disturbing. I can’t believe how much of an ego maniac Bush is. He is capitalizing on the christian constituency…no if ands or buts about it. It is absolutely sickening… ughhh… and I am sure you all heard about this: http://www.progressive.org/mcwatch04/mc051304.html

Posted by: celine on May 26, 2004 12:10 PM


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